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Lately there have been some quirks in fic that have really thrown me out of them. Silly little uniform things that I thought I'd clear up in a post.

With pictures and comments: SGA On Base and Offworld. I'm covering the uniform and most of the gear if I have the information, which has mostly been gathered by my fellow members at SG-C.net.

Image heavy. This is probably not 100% complete, but will be as screen accurate as possible. Gear and uniforms will differ from actual military standards. Comments and corrections welcome.


Command staff/Security/Off-World Uniforms

The typical Atlantis on-base/off world uniform. Variations are worn by command staff, security, and science personnel.

Jackets & Shirts



Seemingly standard issue, but there are many variations. Weir and Teyla seem to be the only ones with red panels, which are probably meant for command staff. Security/military is black, science is blue, medical is yellow. There is a green paneled jacket, but it's not known what department this is for. There are also several jacket base colors: light/steel grey, dark grey/charcoal, and khaki. The steel grey jacket seems to only be paired with the black panels or the red panels. Khaki has been seen with the blue and yellow panels. I believe the dark grey/charcoal jacket has been seen with the green, blue, and yellow panels.

Edit: There are two jacket base colors: grey and khaki. At this point, I'm going to say that all color panels have been seen on the grey jacket, and all but red have been seen on the khaki jackets.



Throughout season one (images above from 1.18), McKay can be seen wearing a darker jacket and pants. It's possible this was a fabric issue as I went back to research it and couldn't find an image of McKay in a dark uniform in season two, except for "Intruder," but that was possibly a lighting issue. So. Corrected until I get a chance to look further.

Edit: [livejournal.com profile] lt_stargate6 confirms there is an Atlantis Strike Unit uniform. He has a gallery here with some caps from "Coup D'Etat". Right now the configuration seems to be black with grey panels.

Atlantis mission patch is worn on the right shoulder; nation flag on the left. These are generally removed from the jacket when off world.

Speculative: There is probably a velcro pocket at the base of the panel where a flap matching the jacket is stored. This piece can be zippered over the colored panels (which is why we see a zippered edge on the panels). I can't remember the exact episode, but I remember Beckett's panels being covered on an off-world mission. It was either "Duet" or "Instinct." "Runner."

Edit: In the Paul McGillion profile on the season two DVDs, Paul does a lot of the interview in the grey jacket with the panels zipped up.

The shirts seem to vary widely from a black t-shirt to a zip-up microfleece to base layer shirts. So, you know, your guess is as good as mine there.


Pants



On the left are standard issue BDU pants, which Sheppard and probably other military personnel wear. Sheppard seems to switch between the BDU pants and the pants in the middle/on the right. The exact model/type is unknown, but it's probably some sort of Fastpack pant and they are worn in the grey or the khaki.

BDU pant features: made of poly-cotton rip-stop. Button-fly. Reinforced knee and seat. Adjustable side waist straps. Adjustable drawstring at leg cuff (but it doesn't seem like they're worn "properly" drawn on SGA). Two front pockets, two rear pockets with button flap and two large cargo pockets on leg.

Fastpack pant features: made of Canyon cloth, chamois-lined. Zip-fly. 11-inch ankle zip and cinch cuff closure. Reinforced seat. Adjustable front waist strap. Two front pockets, two rear pockets with velcro closure. Front security pocket and knife snap hook.


Footwear



All crew wear hiking boots of some kind. Sheppard's boots are most likely the Lowa Arko GTX model, while others (including Teyla and Weir) have worn the Merrill Eagle III.

Any crew coming off the Daedelus seem to be wearing standard issue SGC Garrison BDUs (I think) and Magnum boots. Flight suit specifications can be found here.



The strike team in "Coup D'Etat," with the exception of McKay and Sheppard, wore what seems like a black Special Ops version of the Atlantis uniform and instead of sneakers wore 8-inch Magnum Response boots.


USMC

I don't really feel the need to go too in-depth here. The Marines at the end of season 1 and during season 2 ("The Siege" and "Duet") have been seen wearing Urban Digital MARPAT BDUs. It all seems like standard issue, so more information on Marine uniforms can be found here.



Field Gear

Basic gear that team members wear off world. Individuals may carry additional items (ie, Rodney's laptop that velcros to his back).

Tactical Vest



Model used is the Blackhawk Omega Tactical Vest. Though SG-C notes there is a modification to the D-rings on the shoulder, you can see from the photos that they are unchanged from the stock model.

**Note: In season 1, McKay wore a different vest. Exact model of the vest is unknown, but it look slike a modified Blackhawk Urban assault vest. Further information here.




Belt loops at the base of the vest hold the tactical pistol belt, which loops through the holster (see below). Emergency drag handle on back. Six mag pouches on lower front half of vest; two large pockets and small pouch on left shoulder for radio.

** A tactical vest is not the same as a flak vest. **

Contents of the tactical vests vary between individuals, depending on their position within the team. This is a general list of things anyone might carry.

Standard items:
+ Rations (MREs, PowerBars, chocolate)
+ Flashlight
+ Radio
+ Field Dressing Bandage
+ Extra ammo
+ GDO

Member specific items:
+ Team Leader - Binoculars, GPS
+ Explosives Tech - C4, timer, detonator, etc (Ford seemed to like his flashbangs)
+ Scientist - Laptop, PDA, etc


Tactical Holster and Belt



The Blackhawk Omega VI tactical pistol holster is worn with one of two belts: LCII mylon pistol belt (Sheppard; left image) or the Blackhawk duty belt (McKay; right image).

The sheath for the combat knife (or M8/M9 bayonet) is also looped onto the belt.

The holster has two legs straps and the holster itself can be adjusted to hang higher or lower on the leg.


P-90 Sling



I'm not sure about this. I know they do somehow attach the P-90 to either their tac vest or a harness worn under it, but I've never seen it and the image I have of Lorne & McKay with the P-90 in some sort of sling isn't really clear. It doesn't look like the slings used in SG1. Of course, I can't see it, so I don't know.

Edit: [livejournal.com profile] lt_stargate6 confirms that it's the same sling SG-1 uses in this comment.


And thus ends my geekitude for the night. Feel free to direct people here or whatever.
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Date: 2006-05-08 01:46 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] shoemaster.livejournal.com
You win at geek, dude.

Date: 2006-05-08 01:51 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] amezri.livejournal.com
W00t! :D

Date: 2006-05-08 02:03 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rivier.livejournal.com
I think I just perved all over this post. Sorry.

It's also great, and highly useful for the sake of accuracy. As well as for helpless perving!

::re-reads, stares, slavers:: Thank you so much!

Date: 2006-05-08 02:56 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] amezri.livejournal.com
Ha! It's okay. It did occur to me when I was cutting images that some of the crops were.. erm... interesting. Plus, who doesn't love a thigh holster?

Glad to be of service. I am just a big geek.

Date: 2006-05-08 02:09 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] elven-wolf.livejournal.com
Thank you! I'm working on mine and my brother's uniforms so this is great.

Date: 2006-05-08 03:06 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] amezri.livejournal.com
You're welcome! Be sure to check out the Sg-C forums; there is way more information there.

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Date: 2006-05-08 02:15 am (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] springwoof.livejournal.com
Dude! this is awesome! you totally rule....

Date: 2006-05-08 03:13 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] amezri.livejournal.com
Thanks! ^___^

Date: 2006-05-08 02:43 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] xfkirsten.livejournal.com
Thanks for compiling this all into one place! I got frustrated at the lack of updates to the off-world uniform page at SG-C.net - it got a bit old having to use the search button everytime I had a question when I was putting my costume together. :P

Date: 2006-05-08 03:31 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] amezri.livejournal.com
I'm glad you find this helpful :D

Yeah, there hasn't been any progress on those pages yet, mostly because no one can nail down solid sources for the gear. Oh well...

Date: 2006-05-08 02:44 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] pheti.livejournal.com
ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhh.........

wow. i am in awe...

if only anime fansites went into such detail!!! perhaps we'd see better cosplayers x__x;;

Date: 2006-05-08 03:45 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] amezri.livejournal.com
I am just a big geek. You can say it. *g*

Cosplay sites don't have this kind of detail? I'm kind of surprised by that :x

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Date: 2006-05-08 02:45 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mirabile-dictu.livejournal.com
Oh my god, this is a fantastic resource. Thank you for putting this together!

Date: 2006-05-08 03:40 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] amezri.livejournal.com
You're welcome! :)

Date: 2006-05-08 02:49 am (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] rokeon.livejournal.com
Ooooh, very cool. Also, yum.

Two things- Teyla wears red (http://www.stargatecaps.com/sga/s1/108/html/underground211.html), and I think everyone has their own GDO.

Date: 2006-05-08 02:53 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] amezri.livejournal.com
Oh, duh. I forgot. *makes corrections*

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Date: 2006-05-08 02:53 am (UTC)
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Very cool. I'm putting this in memories. Thanks!

Date: 2006-05-08 03:37 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] amezri.livejournal.com
You're welcome! Glad you find it useful.

Date: 2006-05-08 03:28 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] anjak-j.livejournal.com
Re. Carson and the panelled jacket...

It was 'Runner'...

Date: 2006-05-08 03:29 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] anjak-j.livejournal.com
Ta for info, btw...:o)

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Date: 2006-05-08 03:52 am (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] nakedwesley.livejournal.com
This is so cool! Thanks for the useful info.

Here's (http://www.stargate6.com/sling.htm) a link to info on the P-90 sling.

Date: 2006-05-08 04:10 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] amezri.livejournal.com
Thanks :)

I'd already linked the P-90 sling, but I can't be sure it's the exact same one as we haven't really seen it on its own.

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Atlantis P90 Sling

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Re: Atlantis P90 Sling

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Date: 2006-05-08 04:31 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cupidsbow.livejournal.com
Cool! Thank you so much.

Date: 2006-05-08 10:36 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] amezri.livejournal.com
You're welcome :)

Date: 2006-05-08 06:22 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] moon-brain.livejournal.com
This totally rocks. Thanks for the great resource.

Date: 2006-05-08 10:37 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] amezri.livejournal.com
Thanks! Glad that you find it useful ^^

Date: 2006-05-08 08:53 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jimandblair.livejournal.com
very very useful -- thank you for the time and effort that you've put into this

Date: 2006-05-08 10:38 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] amezri.livejournal.com
Thanks! Msost of the time and effort can be attributed to the people at SG-C.net, I've just tried to gather everything together in this post. :)

Date: 2006-05-08 09:11 am (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] emeraldteal.livejournal.com
Wow! This is great! Love the pics too ;) Thanks for sharing the research :)

Date: 2006-05-08 10:41 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] amezri.livejournal.com
Thanks! :D

Date: 2006-05-08 09:15 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bluespirit-star.livejournal.com
Thanks for this - it's a great resource & must have taken a lot of effort.

Date: 2006-05-08 10:41 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] amezri.livejournal.com
Thanks! Most of the effort belongs to the awesome people are SG-C.net. I just gathered it here for easier access. :)

Date: 2006-05-08 10:19 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rasmizar.livejournal.com
This is so cool! Information-wise - and also, yeah, some of the crops are really... nice. *g*

Re: who wears red - I don't remember the episode, but there was at least one scene with some people of command/administration staff (other than Elizabeth or Teyla) milling in the background of the Atlantis command center(?) wearing red shirts (with grey pants). I'm not sure though if they were wearing jackets at the time...

Date: 2006-05-08 10:40 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] amezri.livejournal.com
Thanks! :D

You're probably right about the red -- I just don't remember seeing anyone else in it. I've tweaked the post anyway to say that red is likely for other command staff. :)

Date: 2006-05-08 01:56 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] dzurlady.livejournal.com
This is very cool, thanks. :)

Date: 2006-05-08 09:24 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] amezri.livejournal.com
You're welcome :)
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Date: 2006-05-08 09:28 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] amezri.livejournal.com
Ah, thanks ^^* But all the credit should go to the great people at SG-Command.net who did all the research. I've just compiled it. :) I'm pretty sure the wardrobe people and most of the cast & crew know about our group, which is pretty cool.

love

Date: 2006-05-08 04:22 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] laceymcbain.livejournal.com
I think I love you. *goggles at all the sexy geekitude* No, I know I love you. ♥

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Date: 2006-05-08 09:32 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] amezri.livejournal.com
:D Thank you! I adore your fics, by the way. Like loads of adoration.

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Date: 2006-05-08 05:10 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thepouncer.livejournal.com
You rule! I obsess over details like this whenever I'm writing (witness me scouring the 'net for pictures of Air Force dress uniform for a one sentence description), so I know I'll be returning often.

Date: 2006-05-08 09:33 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] amezri.livejournal.com
Thanks! Glad this will be helpful :D

Date: 2006-05-08 05:13 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] melagan.livejournal.com
Thank you very much for doing this.

Date: 2006-05-08 09:33 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] amezri.livejournal.com
Glad my geekitude can be of help! :D

Date: 2006-05-08 05:29 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] aurora
You are all kinds of awesome!!

*saves to memories*

Date: 2006-05-08 09:24 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] amezri.livejournal.com
Glad to be of service :)

Date: 2006-05-08 06:48 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] nonniemous.livejournal.com
I can't remember the exact episode, but I remember Beckett's panels being covered on an off-world mission. It was either "Duet" or "Instinct." "Runner."

Would that have been a protective issue, kind of like removing the patches offworld? Sending their noncombatant into a hostile situation, not wanting anyone who might be watching to have a clue as to what role he did have on the team--and what rank?

Date: 2006-05-08 09:12 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] amezri.livejournal.com
Would that have been a protective issue, kind of like removing the patches offworld?

I think so, yes. I mean, it's certainly a good idea, especially with Beckett's bright yellow panels. That's practically a target. Of course, they don't do it every time Carson goes off world, so who knows.

It's probably the same reason McKay finally got his own dark colored uniform. The last thing you need is the noncombatant wearing the brighter outfit.

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Date: 2006-05-08 07:48 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] looking4tarzan.livejournal.com
I was watching a props bit on the SG1 DVD with babylon on it...the p90 clips to the vest....enabling them to be able to pull it up

Fantastic guide tho *memories it*



er in practical (as in buying kit for yourself)
I think my tac-vest is a hong kong one
my thigh holster is a viper
my uniform is grey...and made from a Dickies unlined jacket and trousers (charcoal in colour)
I tend to wear boots.

But then I'm still a poor student..so mine isn't exactly the bestest gear...but it works for all intensive purposes....and I can vouch for the tac vest and holster having been dragged through the mud while I did a sg boot camp.

and sad as it is...*that* experience of crawling ON my thigh holster....completely wiped the sexiness potential
lol

Date: 2006-05-08 09:07 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] amezri.livejournal.com
Hm. That's interesting about the P-90. My props group maintains that the P-90 is attached to a sling that is worn under the harness. There's a quick release clip on the end, though, that attaches to the P-90. *shrug* I dunno.

I'm slowly assembling my SGA costume pieces. I have a full SGC Garrison outfit in navy and just got a Blackhawk Omega holster.

What's this about SG Boot Camp?

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