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smashedrecords, queenmaab, katkel and sweetwildandmad. I even got a bit dressed up! Finally got to see Twilight and the lollercoaster did not disappoint!
Edit: I forgot to mention that there was an overwhelming amount of laughing and snerking during the film from my party... and other parts of the theater. And I can safely say it was a much better viewing if you'd already read the book and were prepared to snark at certain scenes. Oh, it was lovely. When the DVD comes out, I totally want to have a group together for a MST session.
There was a thousand times less whining in this movie, compared to the book. I didn't want to punch Bella in the face nearly as many times. The down side to that is that the pacing of the movie suffers.yukiyoshi told me that the pacing of the movie was worse than the book and I couldn't possibly understand how that could be. Uh, well, it is once you take out all that whining the sane reader skips over. Turns out, you can't really translate that into a script too well. Heh.
How many close-up shots did this movie need? It felt like there was one in every freakin' scene! Which, okay, I get that in the book, Bella is constantly, "oh Edward's piecing eyes, blah blah blah" but it was seriously weird to watch.
Casting of everyone fit pretty well with what I'd imagined except Charlie. And maybe Victoria. LOVED Eric. Not how I pictured him at all, but I like what they did there. And Angela - also not who I would have picked, but she was good. Not nearly as shy as in the book. Jessica was... well, not as overtly bitchy, but it was still there. Great to see mini!Jack as Mike Newton! XD
Edit: I just remembered... wasn't Jessica blonde in the beginning of the film and then turned into a brunette farther in? Or was that just me? :\ There was too much going on and it's possible I was just not paying attention.
Wow. Was Edward being a complete manic-depressive psycho or what? It was good though, because really, Edward is a huge jerk. Really. Though, his reaction shots were generally pretty fun to watch.
Port Angeles scenes were pretty entertaining. I like they way they shot that part with the creeps in the alley and Edward comes and saves Bella.smashedrecords pointed out that the car he was driving doesn't handle like that. I concur. Unless The Stig was the stunt driver. The restaurant scene was fun... but really served to highlight Edward's stalker-y tendencies. Seriously, girls. If a guy ever behaves this way in real life -- with the following and controlling and generally CREEPY behaviour -- call the local authorities and get a restraining order.
OMG, the sparkles. That whole sequence was different from the book, but I didn't mind it that much. Erm, the sequence, not the sparkles. because YOU GUYS! It was like liberal amounts of stripper glitter (they sell it in spray form!) and then some post tweaking to amp it up. Dear god, it was AWFUL. You could only laugh. But, yeah. They re-jigged the, "I'm taking you to my secret meadowto eat you" scene and made it part of the angsty vampire reveal. Which threw me for a bit because I think the hardcore Twitards really love that meadow scene.
The LaPush stuff. I dunno. I guess the surfing stuff was more fun, but I kind of liked the original campfire scene in the book, with Bella trying to get the story out of Jacob and FLIRTING to do so. I felt like that at least had something to do with Jacob's feelings for her. Okay, maybe not really, because she was just exploiting his crush on her, but yeah. Anyway, minor detail.
Bella meeting the Cullens. Erm. Wasn't their house supposed to be a Victorian? That's the way I always pictured it, not some modern, angular architectural structure. Meh. I did like the decor inside... and Esme, Carlisle, Emmett, and Rose cooking dinner! Well, okay, Rose was making the salad... and not happy about it. But yeah. That was fun! With them watching the Food Network to learn how. It was pretty amusing. And Edward with the, "omg, my family is embarrassing" face. Heee! Too cute. Oh, and the jumping around trees thing was pretty awesome. I actually liked that bit a lot.
Edit: re: the house -- I looked it up and this is the description from the book:
Happy!Edward is so much more fun than brooding, angsty Edward. Right, that's a given, but it's much more entertaining to watch Pattinson be all smiley and flirty (and then just popping the dent out of her truck like it was a random gesture was great!). It's kind of awkward to watch him play serious brooding. I dunno.
I'm actually glad they cut out the months and months of Bella & Edwards annoying courtship. Honestly, I was glad to not have to hear about Bella whining on and on about how she isn't good enough for Edward and them being just weird with each other. IDK! I just ended up skipping most of that stuff in the book anyway.
Vampire baseball. I LOVED the vampire baseball sequence. Alice was adorable. I kind of wished the scene was longer. And the whole chase scene probably could have been longer? I don't know. I'm glad that Rosalie was still a bitch about it all, though. Heh. I'm really glad they didn't take us through days of Bella, Jasper, and Alice waiting in some crappy Phoenix hotel. Although... uh... they REALLY skipped the whole getting to Phoenix part, didn't they? Because... erm.. I assume they drove. But maybe they didn't. That wasn't ever really explained. At all. Forks, WA isn't really at all close to Phoenix, AZ.
That fight scene with James was pretty entertaining. I think. It was really sort of short. Clearly this movie suffered from a serious lack of action sequences. Then again, the book did too, so whatever. I LOVE that Alice was the one who broke James' neck. I am so on Team Alice :P
The explanation for Bella hurting herself was SO STUPID. Is that in the book? Because OMG, WHAT? She fell down two flights of stairs and then THROUGH A WINDOW?? UUH. I don't know, I know Bella is a klutz, but seriously, people? Is that in the book because I don't remember what excuse she told her parents, but that sounds really stupid. It's probably in the book.
Edit: Yeah, it's in the book. But it works much better there than in the film:
I have to say this again. THE SPARKLING. IT KILLED.
Right, the prom scene. Adorable, actually. I love that he put Bella on his feet because she can't dance. CUTE. Yeah, that's all I really have to say about that. Oh, except now we get to the part where Bella's going to constantly ask him to turn her. (PS - would Alice really let her wear that sweater over that dress?)
Strangely, I'm looking forward to New Moon. Rumor is that most of the filming will be taking place in Italy. I hope this means we'll get to see more of the Volturi stuff and Edward's POV rather than following Bella as she spirals into a self-destructive pit of dispair. Then again, they have to show a bit of that to set up the whole Jacob thing and the fact that Edward leaving turns her into a non-functioning human being.
I actually did like Carter Burwell's score quite a bit, but I feel like it was placed sort of unevenly. Meh. The "Bella's Lullaby" piece was probably my favorite on first listening, but I'll have to give all the tracks another listen to really say. (Right, have listened. Really like "How I Would Die"/"In Place of Someone You Love" the themes of which are repeated in "Showdown in the Ballet Studio")
I'd heard a while back that the soundtrack would feature Pattinson playing "Bella's Lullaby," but apparently, this was one of the scenes that was reshot and the piece has since been replaced by Burwell's new version in both the film and the soundtrack. Bummer. Two of Pattinson's song do appear in the film: "Never Think" and "Let Me Sign," the latter of which I thought was Gavin Degraw when I heard it in the film. "Never Think" is available on the soundtrack.
Edit: Things What I Forgot:
There was no hunting scene! I just realised that. I wanted a hunting scene. Would have been really fun to watch all them traacking animals and Edward taking her on a hunt... and Jasper flipping out. Boo.
I forgot how much Bella just randomly passed out and fell over and was basically the most uncoordinated person ever. I'm really glad it wasn't so prominent in the movie.
We saw Bella's crap truck, Emmett's Jeep, Edward's Volvo, and I think we got a glimpse of Rosalie's car during the "Edward's not here" part... but the Aston Martin V12 Vanquish gets cut? WTF. The Vanquish was my favorite of the Cullen cars. (Clarkson reviewed the Vanquish S but lost to Steve Coogan in the Ferrari 575) They could have borrowed one for the day or something -- he only needed it for the prom. UGH. We better be seeing it in a later movie.
Can we not do any more cheesy, "I made this on my home computer" montages? PLEASE?
Also? The whole, "And so the lion fell in love with the lamb/Stupid lamb," thing is waaay dumber when you say it out loud. Actually, if they kept that sequence they way it was in the book, it might have worked a little better. Except it was part of that whole meadow scene they rejigged; whatever.
smashedrecords, queenmaab, katkel and sweetwildandmad. I even got a bit dressed up! Finally got to see Twilight and the lollercoaster did not disappoint!Edit: I forgot to mention that there was an overwhelming amount of laughing and snerking during the film from my party... and other parts of the theater. And I can safely say it was a much better viewing if you'd already read the book and were prepared to snark at certain scenes. Oh, it was lovely. When the DVD comes out, I totally want to have a group together for a MST session.
There was a thousand times less whining in this movie, compared to the book. I didn't want to punch Bella in the face nearly as many times. The down side to that is that the pacing of the movie suffers.
yukiyoshi told me that the pacing of the movie was worse than the book and I couldn't possibly understand how that could be. Uh, well, it is once you take out all that whining the sane reader skips over. Turns out, you can't really translate that into a script too well. Heh.How many close-up shots did this movie need? It felt like there was one in every freakin' scene! Which, okay, I get that in the book, Bella is constantly, "oh Edward's piecing eyes, blah blah blah" but it was seriously weird to watch.
Casting of everyone fit pretty well with what I'd imagined except Charlie. And maybe Victoria. LOVED Eric. Not how I pictured him at all, but I like what they did there. And Angela - also not who I would have picked, but she was good. Not nearly as shy as in the book. Jessica was... well, not as overtly bitchy, but it was still there. Great to see mini!Jack as Mike Newton! XD
Edit: I just remembered... wasn't Jessica blonde in the beginning of the film and then turned into a brunette farther in? Or was that just me? :\ There was too much going on and it's possible I was just not paying attention.
Wow. Was Edward being a complete manic-depressive psycho or what? It was good though, because really, Edward is a huge jerk. Really. Though, his reaction shots were generally pretty fun to watch.
Port Angeles scenes were pretty entertaining. I like they way they shot that part with the creeps in the alley and Edward comes and saves Bella.
smashedrecords pointed out that the car he was driving doesn't handle like that. I concur. Unless The Stig was the stunt driver. The restaurant scene was fun... but really served to highlight Edward's stalker-y tendencies. Seriously, girls. If a guy ever behaves this way in real life -- with the following and controlling and generally CREEPY behaviour -- call the local authorities and get a restraining order.OMG, the sparkles. That whole sequence was different from the book, but I didn't mind it that much. Erm, the sequence, not the sparkles. because YOU GUYS! It was like liberal amounts of stripper glitter (they sell it in spray form!) and then some post tweaking to amp it up. Dear god, it was AWFUL. You could only laugh. But, yeah. They re-jigged the, "I'm taking you to my secret meadow
The LaPush stuff. I dunno. I guess the surfing stuff was more fun, but I kind of liked the original campfire scene in the book, with Bella trying to get the story out of Jacob and FLIRTING to do so. I felt like that at least had something to do with Jacob's feelings for her. Okay, maybe not really, because she was just exploiting his crush on her, but yeah. Anyway, minor detail.
Bella meeting the Cullens. Erm. Wasn't their house supposed to be a Victorian? That's the way I always pictured it, not some modern, angular architectural structure. Meh. I did like the decor inside... and Esme, Carlisle, Emmett, and Rose cooking dinner! Well, okay, Rose was making the salad... and not happy about it. But yeah. That was fun! With them watching the Food Network to learn how. It was pretty amusing. And Edward with the, "omg, my family is embarrassing" face. Heee! Too cute. Oh, and the jumping around trees thing was pretty awesome. I actually liked that bit a lot.
Edit: re: the house -- I looked it up and this is the description from the book:
I don't know what I had expected, but it definitely wasn't this. The house was timeless, graceful, and probably a hundred years old. It was painted a soft, faded white, three stories tall, rectangular and well proportioned.
Happy!Edward is so much more fun than brooding, angsty Edward. Right, that's a given, but it's much more entertaining to watch Pattinson be all smiley and flirty (and then just popping the dent out of her truck like it was a random gesture was great!). It's kind of awkward to watch him play serious brooding. I dunno.
I'm actually glad they cut out the months and months of Bella & Edwards annoying courtship. Honestly, I was glad to not have to hear about Bella whining on and on about how she isn't good enough for Edward and them being just weird with each other. IDK! I just ended up skipping most of that stuff in the book anyway.
Vampire baseball. I LOVED the vampire baseball sequence. Alice was adorable. I kind of wished the scene was longer. And the whole chase scene probably could have been longer? I don't know. I'm glad that Rosalie was still a bitch about it all, though. Heh. I'm really glad they didn't take us through days of Bella, Jasper, and Alice waiting in some crappy Phoenix hotel. Although... uh... they REALLY skipped the whole getting to Phoenix part, didn't they? Because... erm.. I assume they drove. But maybe they didn't. That wasn't ever really explained. At all. Forks, WA isn't really at all close to Phoenix, AZ.
That fight scene with James was pretty entertaining. I think. It was really sort of short. Clearly this movie suffered from a serious lack of action sequences. Then again, the book did too, so whatever. I LOVE that Alice was the one who broke James' neck. I am so on Team Alice :P
The explanation for Bella hurting herself was SO STUPID. Is that in the book? Because OMG, WHAT? She fell down two flights of stairs and then THROUGH A WINDOW?? UUH. I don't know, I know Bella is a klutz, but seriously, people? Is that in the book because I don't remember what excuse she told her parents, but that sounds really stupid. It's probably in the book.
Edit: Yeah, it's in the book. But it works much better there than in the film:
"But what did you tell her?" I panicked. I had no interest in being soothed. My mom was here and I was recovering from a vampire attack. "Why did you tell her I'm here?"
"You fell down two flights of stairs and through a window." He paused. "You have to admit, it could happen."
I have to say this again. THE SPARKLING. IT KILLED.
Right, the prom scene. Adorable, actually. I love that he put Bella on his feet because she can't dance. CUTE. Yeah, that's all I really have to say about that. Oh, except now we get to the part where Bella's going to constantly ask him to turn her. (PS - would Alice really let her wear that sweater over that dress?)
Strangely, I'm looking forward to New Moon. Rumor is that most of the filming will be taking place in Italy. I hope this means we'll get to see more of the Volturi stuff and Edward's POV rather than following Bella as she spirals into a self-destructive pit of dispair. Then again, they have to show a bit of that to set up the whole Jacob thing and the fact that Edward leaving turns her into a non-functioning human being.
I actually did like Carter Burwell's score quite a bit, but I feel like it was placed sort of unevenly. Meh. The "Bella's Lullaby" piece was probably my favorite on first listening, but I'll have to give all the tracks another listen to really say. (Right, have listened. Really like "How I Would Die"/"In Place of Someone You Love" the themes of which are repeated in "Showdown in the Ballet Studio")
I'd heard a while back that the soundtrack would feature Pattinson playing "Bella's Lullaby," but apparently, this was one of the scenes that was reshot and the piece has since been replaced by Burwell's new version in both the film and the soundtrack. Bummer. Two of Pattinson's song do appear in the film: "Never Think" and "Let Me Sign," the latter of which I thought was Gavin Degraw when I heard it in the film. "Never Think" is available on the soundtrack.
Edit: Things What I Forgot:
There was no hunting scene! I just realised that. I wanted a hunting scene. Would have been really fun to watch all them traacking animals and Edward taking her on a hunt... and Jasper flipping out. Boo.
I forgot how much Bella just randomly passed out and fell over and was basically the most uncoordinated person ever. I'm really glad it wasn't so prominent in the movie.
We saw Bella's crap truck, Emmett's Jeep, Edward's Volvo, and I think we got a glimpse of Rosalie's car during the "Edward's not here" part... but the Aston Martin V12 Vanquish gets cut? WTF. The Vanquish was my favorite of the Cullen cars. (Clarkson reviewed the Vanquish S but lost to Steve Coogan in the Ferrari 575) They could have borrowed one for the day or something -- he only needed it for the prom. UGH. We better be seeing it in a later movie.
Can we not do any more cheesy, "I made this on my home computer" montages? PLEASE?
Also? The whole, "And so the lion fell in love with the lamb/Stupid lamb," thing is waaay dumber when you say it out loud. Actually, if they kept that sequence they way it was in the book, it might have worked a little better. Except it was part of that whole meadow scene they rejigged; whatever.
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Date: 2008-12-04 05:19 am (UTC)Funny you imagined the Cullen house as Victorian. I never did. I thought it was described as ultra-modern in the book. Or I just imagined it that way. But it looked very much as I'd pictured it.
I love that your grrlz were the ones to point out the car doesn't handle that way. I'm guessing that Edward's had some time to figure out the whole stunt driving thing on his own, though, huh?
I agree about the sparkles. Clearly, no gay man had anything to do with that sequence 'cuz it was not spectacular. Unfab.
I think the explanation for Bela's injuries is the same as in the book. Seeing everything somehow makes it lamer doesn't it.
All said, though, I enjoyed the movie, and I'll be back for New Moon.
--/carlos
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Date: 2008-12-04 05:41 am (UTC)Well, hey. I love Edward -- mostly because he's in a Pattinson-shaped package -- but I'm not talking about the mind reading stuff. That's understandable. I'm talking about the way he Jekyll/Hydes with Bella. I dunno. Even if I get it, it's still annoying.
I thought it was described as ultra-modern in the book. Or I just imagined it that way.
I had to look it up:
I think the explanation for Bela's injuries is the same as in the book.
Yeah, same as the book. I just looked. It's less lame in the book since Edward just flippantly tells her that's what he reported. Seeing it in a cheesy montage makes it worse.
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Date: 2008-12-04 07:03 am (UTC)But seriously... Being a teenager (even a 90-yr-old one) still means being annoying. Even if you're undead.
Funny that we both took different things about the house from how it was described in the book. You remembered the age and I remembered the rectangularness of it all.
--/carlos
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Date: 2008-12-04 04:57 pm (UTC)Of course they are, but this was extra special annoying.
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Date: 2008-12-04 06:52 am (UTC)But hey, whatever works.
I think the baseball was the best part of the film, honestly. The baseball and Charlie! He cracked me up. :D
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Date: 2008-12-04 05:01 pm (UTC)Yeah, I'd have been okay with something like that too.
Oh, geez, Charlie! I loved that scene where he's drinking beer and cleaning his shotgun and Edward comes in to meet him! XD
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Date: 2008-12-04 01:19 pm (UTC)I can't believe you didn't mention Taycob's wig! It was unbeweavable! Tyra Banks would have been so jealous. I also really like happy Edward, brooding Edward is so creepy that it makes me cringe. RPattz played him true to what he said in interviews though, manic depressive and obsessive. Still very pretty to look at though. Also, was I the only one who thought Jasper's little play with the baseball bat was hot?
Also, thank you for explaining why the pacing sucked. I couldn't figure out what was missing. It would have made more sense to adapt the screenplay from Midnight Sun and Twilight, I have a feeling it would have been more coherent.
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Date: 2008-12-04 05:34 pm (UTC)Yeah, I agree. I think she played Rosalie just right. I actually did kind of like the fact Rosalie wasn't one of the ones to totally fall all over Bella, which is why I was so annoyed with her in Breaking Dawn.
I can't believe you didn't mention Taycob's wig! It was unbeweavable!
Sorry. I kept being distracted by Charlie's 'stache.
RPattz played him true to what he said in interviews though, manic depressive and obsessive.
That's a really good point. I'm glad he read Midnight Sun and got the same reading of Edward that we sane people did.
It would have made more sense to adapt the screenplay from Midnight Sun and Twilight, I have a feeling it would have been more coherent.
I'm hoping New Moon does this a bit; Bella & the Cullen's POV. Otherwise the movie's going to be huge cringefest.
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Date: 2008-12-06 06:24 pm (UTC)No, you were not. I found Emmett, Rosalie, and Alice hot throughout the movie, but it wasn't until the bat that I went, Oh, hell, Jasper's hot too, at least while playing with a bat.
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Date: 2008-12-05 01:39 am (UTC)I do thin they cut everything they needed to cut very well and for the most part captured the book and I to, am looking forward to New Moon. Thank god for not focusing on Jacob/Bella. That was my least favorite part of New Moon.
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