Please Read These Election thoughts
Oct. 26th, 2004 09:52 am![[personal profile]](https://www.dreamwidth.org/img/silk/identity/user.png){kind=small}
amezriFor those of you voting next week - and those of you not, actually - please, please read the following articles and posts. I've always been courteous to my Conservative friends, but I still don't understand the support of Bush's reelection. I never will. But, please, take a few minutes and read these items. If you're still secure that your vote for Bush is the right one, then may whatever deity you believe in bless you.
380 tons of explosives are missing in Iraq. 380 tons. That our military should have been protecting.
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qowf, whose mind was not made up about who they'd be voting for prior to reading that article: "Bush took us to war under false pretenses. He has been praised for stepping up after 9/11, but you know, it was his job. Any president would have stepped up. The circumstances demanded it and it goes with the title."
The New Yorker criticizes Bush's "election" and the four years of his presidency. - How much of this can Bush supporters disagree with?
Read this entry byhelbling, who cannot vote because she is not American. But your vote? Affects her and other non-Americans: "I can't vote next week, I'm helpless, because I'm not American. But if you are, please, before you tick that box, on that oh-so-important little piece of paper next week, think about it. Really think, and be sure you're voting for the right person. For all of us who are effected, but have no say, what-so-ever."
Moby liststhe service records of all those Democrats and Republicans we keep hearing about. Look at that and keep in mind that some of those people are responsible for sending friends, family, and children to war. Do you think they have the experience to backup that decision?
Links to Eminem's new video for "Mosh," which is highly political.
380 tons of explosives are missing in Iraq. 380 tons. That our military should have been protecting.
Please read this post by
qowf, whose mind was not made up about who they'd be voting for prior to reading that article: "Bush took us to war under false pretenses. He has been praised for stepping up after 9/11, but you know, it was his job. Any president would have stepped up. The circumstances demanded it and it goes with the title."The New Yorker criticizes Bush's "election" and the four years of his presidency. - How much of this can Bush supporters disagree with?
Read this entry by
helbling, who cannot vote because she is not American. But your vote? Affects her and other non-Americans: "I can't vote next week, I'm helpless, because I'm not American. But if you are, please, before you tick that box, on that oh-so-important little piece of paper next week, think about it. Really think, and be sure you're voting for the right person. For all of us who are effected, but have no say, what-so-ever."Moby liststhe service records of all those Democrats and Republicans we keep hearing about. Look at that and keep in mind that some of those people are responsible for sending friends, family, and children to war. Do you think they have the experience to backup that decision?
Links to Eminem's new video for "Mosh," which is highly political.
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Date: 2004-10-26 08:22 am (UTC)NO ONE knows when those explosives disappeared. It could have very well been BEFORE we invaded. To say that it's Bush's fault that he didn't keep a better eye on them, that's just BS from the Kerry camp. I think the UN needs to answer for that one.
Jen
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Date: 2004-10-26 06:05 pm (UTC)Or.. not.. since.. erm.. we haven't found those "weapons of mass destruction" either.
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Date: 2004-10-26 08:33 am (UTC)John Kerry and exemplary soldier?? Please. His own diary shows that he lied to get a purple heart and he admits that he lied to the senate about being in Cambodia. He'll say whatever he needs to say to be popular... spill whatever lies in order to win your confidence and your vote. It's not what he really thinks... it's what his polls tell him he needs to think. ... like goose hunting. Remind me to show you how many times he's voted against gun ownership and ammo. What a hypocrite.
Sorry for the rant. But I'm still voting for Bush. ... at least I know what he's REALLY all about... Kerry is too much of a wild card.
Jen
P.S. I still luvs you and respect your reasons to vote for Kerry... even though I don't agree with them. ::hugs::
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Date: 2004-10-26 09:30 am (UTC)Of course, it also doesn't make it FACTUAL.
Though I'd be interested in why you think Kerry is a wild card. To me, Bush is the wild card. Kerry is a career politician... and they're fairly easy to predict. Bush doesn't really care about popular opinion... which means I never, ever am sure what he'll do next. And that kinda scares me.
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Date: 2004-10-26 10:20 am (UTC)A career politician who's votes contradict his words. If he wasn't trying so hard to be Howard Dean right now, I might be able to take him seriously. But I don't think he really believes half of the things he is saying. He's only saying them to get the votes... then what happens? We don't know, because what he's saying goes against the 20 year record he's already established. ... a 20 year record that I don't agree with. So if he reverts to his previous voting ways once President, then he's not the one I want in office. Will he? Who knows, I don't want to take that chance.
Jen
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Date: 2004-10-26 10:30 am (UTC)And I understand the fear. Some of his platform has changed over the past few months, because I think he has realized the truth of this election. Being John Kerry is not going to get him elected. The only thing that has a chance of getting him elected is being Not George Bush. He's trying to appeal to people, like me, who don't really agree with everything he has to say but are faced with a candidate we kind of dislike and one who we dislike passionatly. Do I think that's noble? Not really. But like I said before... he's a career politician. I trust him, in domestic matters at least, to side with popular opinion. And honestly, I have no problem with that. (Obviously national defense is a different, and far longer story. *g*)
Boy I just talked alot. I don't know if I said much. *g*
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Date: 2004-10-26 06:15 pm (UTC)As for Kerry's lies... Okay, so he lied to get a purple heart. Did he lie about both of them or just the one? And also, does that fact that he lied about it, but was still in Vietnam make him worse than Bush who lied to get out of duty and has basically never been in a combat situation? Are we to discount the fact that Kerry also has silver and bronze stars?
Bush and Kerry are both politicians. Politicians will generally say what's needed to be popular. That's kind of a given. From what I know about Kerry's gun voting record, I thought he was voting against items that make it easier for people to own assualt weapons - not handguns and rifles. Please show me his voting record and, if possible, text of the bill he was voting on so there can be no confusion.
You're, of course, free to vote for Bush. I'll never understand it, but you have the right to do it. It's strange that the reason you're voting for Bush is that exact reason why I can't vote for him. I know what he's really about and we've seen it over the last four years. I don't want another four like these, so I'm willing to try out someone else.
That said, I still hven't decided if I'm going to vote for Kerry. Badnarik looks like a good choice as well. Stop laughing. I mean it...
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Date: 2004-10-26 09:23 am (UTC)Okay, not really. But I still think it's the very last reason anyone should rethink their decisions. :D
-Bree
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Date: 2004-10-26 09:33 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2004-10-26 09:35 am (UTC)He scares me, man. He's scary. SCARRRY.
Have you been reading factcheck.org? I really like them... mostly because I like to know when Kerry is lying just as much if not more than I want to know when Bush is lying. Because Bush is a non issue. Nothing could make me support him. Kerry is the one who I want to form an opinion on.
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Date: 2004-10-26 10:02 am (UTC)I really really mean that. Even though we are on opposite sides of the issues here, I really appreciate that you have CAUSE to believe the way you do. I respect that... a lot.
Not that it would mean much from a random Republican war monger like myself.
Jen
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Date: 2004-10-26 10:21 am (UTC)My personal opinion on all of this is that I don't know the truth about anything that I did not witness personally. The best I can do is to read as many opposing views as possible and try to get an idea of what might be really going on. And sadly enough... neither party is interested in me knowing the real truth. But that's the way it is.
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Date: 2004-10-26 06:36 pm (UTC)::falls over laughing::
Date: 2004-10-26 11:57 am (UTC)I'm sure that everyone who's planning on voting differently than you appreciates you giving them the generous go-ahead to do so. Hell, that bypasses "courteous" and shoots straight for "benevolent."
Donna
Re: ::falls over laughing::
Date: 2004-10-26 12:18 pm (UTC)Re: ::falls over laughing::
Date: 2004-10-26 01:38 pm (UTC)Donna :)
Re: ::falls over laughing::
Date: 2004-10-26 06:39 pm (UTC)Re: ::falls over laughing::
Date: 2004-10-26 12:23 pm (UTC)Donna, she only gave people voting for Bush permission to cast their vote. You're not voting for Bush OR Kerry... so if you're looking for permission...
YOU DON'T HAVE IT! HAHAHAHAHA!
*runs, because even with a big ass and asthma, Bree can run faster than Donna who is due to have a baby TO-FUCKING-DAY*
-Bree
::huffs and puffs::
Date: 2004-10-26 01:48 pm (UTC)Eh, I may miss out on the election, anyway. I never got an absentee ballot, and I'll probably be in the hospital having a kid.
Donna :)
Re: ::huffs and puffs::
Date: 2004-10-26 01:53 pm (UTC)Re: ::huffs and puffs::
Date: 2004-10-26 01:55 pm (UTC)"Hi, I'm Bad Narik."
Sounds like a Sci-fi character. Or a rock band.
-Bree
Woot!
Date: 2004-10-26 03:31 pm (UTC)Unfortunately, a lot of people see a Libertarian vote as a "stoner vote," because the legalization of drugs is a huge part of their party platform. It's about more than legal pot, people!
Wait, my icon didn't help that stoner thing, did it? :snork::
Donna :)
Re: ::huffs and puffs::
Date: 2004-10-28 03:29 pm (UTC)Re: ::huffs and puffs::
Date: 2004-10-26 02:10 pm (UTC)Because I think both Kerry and Bush SUCK. :p
I will liberate you from the hospital and drive you to vote. Unless, you know, you are having or have just had a baby.
-Bree