2nd presidential debates
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First of all, it would have been really nice if either of them could have answered the friggin' question instead of repeating the same crap they've been saying for the past few months. There were a few annoying things on both sides, and I'm just going to list them.
Bush:
1. Wait your turn
2. Do you understand how a bill is written and how it's voted on? It is not a simple yes or no. You can't say because Kerry voted against the Partial Birth Abortion Ban he's an evil baby killer. Maybe there was something in the bill that was harmful, like he mentioned. Like, a Free Cookie Bill - good idea, except there's a line that says for every free cookie you get, you lose a finger. Are you going to belittle everyone who votes no to free cookies because they don't want idiots losing fingers?!
3. Please keep your religion to yourself, thank you.
4. When you laugh, you look like a creepy troll. Just sayin'
5. Chill the fuck out.
6. It sounds like you're blaming your generals for telling you that there were enough troops, supplies, etc and that you relied entirely on them to make the decision. Uhm. Maybe you don't understand that you're the Commander and Chief. You're supposed to be making the final decisions, to the bes tof your ability. Oh, right, you don't have any.
7. We can have Internets? I always thought there was just the one...
8. You do own a lumber company, dumbass.
9. I do not believe in your god. Your religion is your opinion.
10. Hi. How are you paying for your war?
11. Poland is leaving. Stop mentioning them.
Kerry:
1. Several times? I had no idea what the hell you were talking about
2. You had SO MANY openings to shoot Bush down. Did you? Of course not. Idiot.
3. I still don't understand your plan to reduce the deficit. Well, I sort of do.. but not really
4. Stop name dropping. I don't know who the hell those people are and most of the time I don't care.
5. "I will not legislate my faith on people." That was not annoying. I just like that you said that.
6. I don't think you did as well this time as the first debate. I did, however, enjoy the smirking.
One very serious concern I have is about Bush's "multilateral" talks with North Korea. I know that China was brought in, but tonight I find out that Japan's there, too. China. And Japan. Talking to North Korea. Hi, are you all very retarded? Not only do you have one country that would love nothing more than to blow us all up, but now you have two. It's very clear that someone doesn't understand the very precarious relations between Chinese, Japanese, and Koreans. Generally speaking - they hate each other. Having the Chinese, Japanese, and South Koreans "helping" us talking down North Korea is very, very stupid and all three of them would just as soon be rid of us meddling Westerners.
And if I have to hear about us "spreading freedom" one more time, I'm going to puke. I'm all for helping countries that actually want our help, but to just decide that it's our responsibility to spread "freedom & democracy" like it's some sort of disease is sickening. Let's not even bring up the fact that this country is actually a Republic, not a Democracy. In fact, our founding fathers were against the formation of a democractic government.
There's just so much argh.
Jessi Klein (of VH1's Best Week ever) does running commentary on the debates.
First of all, it would have been really nice if either of them could have answered the friggin' question instead of repeating the same crap they've been saying for the past few months. There were a few annoying things on both sides, and I'm just going to list them.
Bush:
1. Wait your turn
2. Do you understand how a bill is written and how it's voted on? It is not a simple yes or no. You can't say because Kerry voted against the Partial Birth Abortion Ban he's an evil baby killer. Maybe there was something in the bill that was harmful, like he mentioned. Like, a Free Cookie Bill - good idea, except there's a line that says for every free cookie you get, you lose a finger. Are you going to belittle everyone who votes no to free cookies because they don't want idiots losing fingers?!
3. Please keep your religion to yourself, thank you.
4. When you laugh, you look like a creepy troll. Just sayin'
5. Chill the fuck out.
6. It sounds like you're blaming your generals for telling you that there were enough troops, supplies, etc and that you relied entirely on them to make the decision. Uhm. Maybe you don't understand that you're the Commander and Chief. You're supposed to be making the final decisions, to the bes tof your ability. Oh, right, you don't have any.
7. We can have Internets? I always thought there was just the one...
8. You do own a lumber company, dumbass.
9. I do not believe in your god. Your religion is your opinion.
10. Hi. How are you paying for your war?
11. Poland is leaving. Stop mentioning them.
Kerry:
1. Several times? I had no idea what the hell you were talking about
2. You had SO MANY openings to shoot Bush down. Did you? Of course not. Idiot.
3. I still don't understand your plan to reduce the deficit. Well, I sort of do.. but not really
4. Stop name dropping. I don't know who the hell those people are and most of the time I don't care.
5. "I will not legislate my faith on people." That was not annoying. I just like that you said that.
6. I don't think you did as well this time as the first debate. I did, however, enjoy the smirking.
One very serious concern I have is about Bush's "multilateral" talks with North Korea. I know that China was brought in, but tonight I find out that Japan's there, too. China. And Japan. Talking to North Korea. Hi, are you all very retarded? Not only do you have one country that would love nothing more than to blow us all up, but now you have two. It's very clear that someone doesn't understand the very precarious relations between Chinese, Japanese, and Koreans. Generally speaking - they hate each other. Having the Chinese, Japanese, and South Koreans "helping" us talking down North Korea is very, very stupid and all three of them would just as soon be rid of us meddling Westerners.
And if I have to hear about us "spreading freedom" one more time, I'm going to puke. I'm all for helping countries that actually want our help, but to just decide that it's our responsibility to spread "freedom & democracy" like it's some sort of disease is sickening. Let's not even bring up the fact that this country is actually a Republic, not a Democracy. In fact, our founding fathers were against the formation of a democractic government.
There's just so much argh.
Jessi Klein (of VH1's Best Week ever) does running commentary on the debates.
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Date: 2004-10-08 08:28 pm (UTC)Yeah, but at the same time that would have put him in Bush's position. he didn't have to shoot anything down because a lot of times Bush did that for himself. I actually really liked Kerry's composure.
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Date: 2004-10-08 08:34 pm (UTC)no subject
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Date: 2004-10-09 08:43 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2004-10-09 03:51 pm (UTC)http://www.capmag.com/article.asp?id=165
http://www.strike-the-root.com/columns/bommarito/bommarito11.html
http://www.house.gov/paul/tst/tst2000/tst121200.htm
http://www.lexrex.com/enlightened/AmericanIdeal/aspects/demrep.html
Hope that's helpful!